posted 03-14-2005 12:58 AM         

What if state licensing boards were to randomly make a handful of pretext calls each year to examiners offering extra payment for a predetermined outcome? I think this would be a strong deterrent against any temptation that may be out there. The APA might want to adopt a similar measure for members. Any thoughts?

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posted 03-14-2005 08:52 AM            

ethics in the polygraph profession is a major pet issue of mine. I too have been offered bribes (the most 3 times my normal fee) for predetermined outcomes.

First of all, any examiner who takes money for pre determined outcomes is an unprofessional scumbag and I would only request a few minutes alone with them, in a room, to "find out why" they would do such a despicable thing and embarrass my profession.

Additionally, anyone likely to accept bribes is not likely to think it is proper conduct and would certainly not be foolish enough to agree to something like that during a (cold) phone conversation.

Reputation is EVERYTHING in this profession. Encouraging the reporting of improper or unethical conduct to associations and licensing boards is the only avenue we have in policing ourselves. If anything (my humble opinion), the major associations should jointly establish an anonymous violation reporting board, e-mail address of phone number (like the BBB) whereby complaints can be made, logged and registered/recorded. I know this opens a can of worms; but how many of us know of bad examiners and won't tell anyone except our buddies, while having a beer...?

As for those not subjecting themselves to any oversight by licensing committees or associations, there is little that can be done...unless the state reinitiates summary executions for misdemeanors...

Jim

posted 03-14-2005 09:33 AM            

As a side note, the husband in his haste to conduct the investigation on his own actually committed a crime when he taped the wife’s conversation with Chuck.

Here is the federal law: http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_119.html

posted 03-14-2005 11:09 AM         

Does all this sound a little familiar? Look at the thread I started on 11/05/04 titled "Dishonest Examiner Solicitation". This lady was not offering three times my fee.....she was talking thousands of dollars. It was nothing to her as she stood to lose millions! I had another offer of $5,000 from a business executive who stood to lose everything in a divorce.

It today's world, people can take damn near everything you own. There is only one thing they can't take. It has to be willingly given away by you. It's your integrity.

Thanks just the same, but I'll hang onto mine!

posted 03-15-2005 11:55 AM         

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